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[Rod Speed]

On Sun, 28 May 2023 01:10:26 +1000, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sat, 27 May 2023 12:34:18 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 27/05/2023 12:18, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2023 11:52:06 +0100, Max Demian
max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

On 27/05/2023 02:52, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 10:33:22 +0100, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-04-22, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 21:10:07 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-04-22, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com
wrote:
Safeway is for bulk shopping, milk and paper towels. Their
rotesserie
chickens are OK and make great broth.

For you, perhaps. Millions of people use it for all their
groceries.

We like farmers\' markets for good stuff. And the Farm Box weekly
delivery.

Safeway tends to have good stuff for a while and then replace it
with
a house brand. Try to find World\'s Best Mac and Cheese, which
Safeway
used to have.

Unlikely. I don\'t like mac and cheese. Never have.

I never twigged what that was. Over here we call it \"macaroni and
cheese\" because that\'s what it is.

No we don\'t. We call it \"macaroni cheese\". entirely \"and\" free. Of
course it *isn\'t* just macaroni and cheese, there are other
ingredients.

Americans are very keen on it, and you can buy a kit of parts to make
it. I don\'t know what they use for cheese, though.

Frozen is easy, and some brands are excellent.

https://beechershandmadecheese.com/products/worlds-best-mac-and-cheese

We say mac and cheese

I\'ve never said that in my life.

Well, people talk funny in remote uncivilized islands.


Always \'spaghetti cheese\' or \'macaroni
cheese\'
A staple food post war with rationing, when dairy and eggs and pasta
made of low grade wheat were UK produced products that you could
actually buy. Cheaply.

We never had food rationing.

Are you in England?

Yes he is.

I wonder why England can\'t grow enough food to
feed itself. The population density isn\'t extreme.

They chose to import quite a bit of it from places
like Australia, New Zealand, other ex colonys
and some places where it was cheaper like
Arghentina and some places where it was better.

Along with fish.

What sort of fish do you get?

Fish from rivers like sewers in SE Asia as well as some ocean fish.

 

[Rod Speed]

On Sun, 28 May 2023 01:17:46 +1000, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sat, 27 May 2023 13:33:20 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-05-27, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 27/05/2023 02:52, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 10:33:22 +0100, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-04-22, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 21:10:07 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-04-22, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com
wrote:
Safeway is for bulk shopping, milk and paper towels. Their
rotesserie
chickens are OK and make great broth.

For you, perhaps. Millions of people use it for all their
groceries.

We like farmers\' markets for good stuff. And the Farm Box weekly
delivery.

Safeway tends to have good stuff for a while and then replace it
with
a house brand. Try to find World\'s Best Mac and Cheese, which
Safeway
used to have.

Unlikely. I don\'t like mac and cheese. Never have.

I never twigged what that was. Over here we call it \"macaroni and
cheese\" because that\'s what it is.

No we don\'t. We call it \"macaroni cheese\". entirely \"and\" free. Of
course it *isn\'t* just macaroni and cheese, there are other
ingredients.

Americans are very keen on it, and you can buy a kit of parts to make
it. I don\'t know what they use for cheese, though.

The kit comes with powdered \"cheese\". Actually a mixture of dried,
powdered cheese with other ultra-processed ingredients to make a
smooth sauce.

Annie\'s is better than starvation. Kraft is not.

Annie\'s also makes a decent basalmic salad dressing, for when you
don\'t feel like making it yourself. I add maple syrup

Fark, no wonder you are so fat.

and garlic
powder.

Annie\'s is, in my opinion, the best ketchup too.

 

[Rod Speed]

On Sun, 28 May 2023 01:39:03 +1000, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 27/05/2023 16:10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2023 12:34:18 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 27/05/2023 12:18, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2023 11:52:06 +0100, Max Demian
max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

On 27/05/2023 02:52, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 10:33:22 +0100, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-04-22, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 21:10:07 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-04-22, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com
wrote:
Safeway is for bulk shopping, milk and paper towels. Their
rotesserie
chickens are OK and make great broth.

For you, perhaps. Millions of people use it for all their
groceries.

We like farmers\' markets for good stuff. And the Farm Box weekly
delivery.

Safeway tends to have good stuff for a while and then replace it
with
a house brand. Try to find World\'s Best Mac and Cheese, which
Safeway
used to have.

Unlikely. I don\'t like mac and cheese. Never have.

I never twigged what that was. Over here we call it \"macaroni and
cheese\" because that\'s what it is.

No we don\'t. We call it \"macaroni cheese\". entirely \"and\" free. Of
course it *isn\'t* just macaroni and cheese, there are other
ingredients.

Americans are very keen on it, and you can buy a kit of parts to make
it. I don\'t know what they use for cheese, though.

Frozen is easy, and some brands are excellent.

https://beechershandmadecheese.com/products/worlds-best-mac-and-cheese

We say mac and cheese

I\'ve never said that in my life.
Well, people talk funny in remote uncivilized islands.

Always \'spaghetti cheese\' or \'macaroni
cheese\'
A staple food post war with rationing, when dairy and eggs and pasta
made of low grade wheat were UK produced products that you could
actually buy. Cheaply.
We never had food rationing.
Are you in England? I wonder why England can\'t grow enough food to
feed itself. The population density isn\'t extreme.

The population density of the bits suitable for agricultural activity is
extreme.
Nearly all of Scotland, half of Wales and a fair bit of England is
barely upland grazing suitable.

The efficiency of the actual farms is massive in terms of yield per
acre. But the government keeps importing cheap labour that doesn\'t want
to work, so the population is now completely out of control

During the war every scrap of land including grazing land for cattle and
sheep, was turned over to grow food, hence the meat shortage. Pigs could
be fed on scraps and chickens could eat insects, so they were in
reasonable supply.


Along with fish.
What sort of fish do you get?

In those days it was North Atlantic halibut, haddock, cod and herring,
also mackerel. That was when we had a national area to fish in before
the EU let any man and his dog fish them to extinction.
Coastal species like bream, sole, turbot and plaice were available, but
expensive.

We were importing sheep from Australia

And canned fruit.

and New Zealand and Beef from Argentina, fruit from South Africa, and
bananas from the Caribbean.
Until we joined the EU of course. No longer allowed.

Lamb from NZ was still allowed.

 

[Rod Speed]

On Sun, 28 May 2023 03:10:23 +1000, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de>
wrote:

Am 27.05.23 um 17:39 schrieb The Natural Philosopher:
On 27/05/2023 16:10, John Larkin wrote:

Well, people talk funny in remote uncivilized islands.

Are you in England? I wonder why England can\'t grow enough food to
feed itself. The population density isn\'t extreme.

The population density of the bits suitable for agricultural activity
is extreme.
Nearly all of Scotland, half of Wales and a fair bit of England is
barely upland grazing suitable.

The Lords, Ladies and Gentlemen kicked out Scottish crofters to the USA
in ancient times because sheep generated revenue without asking for
their share and

took care of themselves.

No they don\'t with shearing, crutching etc.

The efficiency of the actual farms is massive in terms of yield per
acre. But the government keeps importing cheap labour that doesn\'t want
to work, so the population is now completely out of control

It\'s more that it worked as long as the cheap workers from Poland, UA
e.a. were allowed to do the dirty jobs. Now that they are un-imported it
shows that the Lords, Ladies and Gentlemen
are unwilling to crawl through the fields or to drive trucks all day
long because it smells like real work.

Lords, Ladies and Gentlemen never did such work, even before the war.

In those days it was North Atlantic halibut, haddock, cod and herring,
also mackerel. That was when we had a national area to fish in before
the EU let any man and his dog fish them to extinction.

More like the English fishings rights are long-term-owned by just a few
GB families and companies,

There are no such fishing rights.

and they sell where the money is, as much as possible. And the French
oyster banks in Normandy now have a chance to recover. And the small
fishermen in southern England start to sit on hot coals, now that the EU
subsidies are gone. It does not pay to bite the feeding hand.

We were importing sheep from Australia and New Zealand and Beef from
Argentina, fruit from South Africa, and bananas from the Caribbean.
Until we joined the EU of course. No longer allowed.

No longer allowed? How does the EU hinder you? Just do it, if you can.
No one cares. And when there are no tomatoes in GB supermarkets, just
find some Lords to drive the trucks from Southern Spain to Dover or
wherever and bring them over your frontier before they are rotten.

BTW: I assume, the NHS is in stellar shape, now that the claimed 350
MPounds a week are invested there?

In fact rather more than that has been invested in it.

> You remember the red election tour bus, don\'t you?

 

[rbowman]

On Sun, 28 May 2023 09:58:13 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

> Fish from rivers like sewers in SE Asia as well as some ocean fish.

But swai like sewers... The US FDA at one point disallowed calling swai
catfish but part of their oversight was passed to the USDA which is more
liberal about what constitutes a catfish.

Cynically with the price for cod, haddock, halibut, and so forth headed
for the atmosphere allowing a greater selection of trash fish means the
markets still have semi-affordable fish. The FDA even reversed itself on
tilapia and now list it among the best choices.

 

[rbowman]

On Sun, 28 May 2023 09:30:32 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

Bases are bitter.

Not always, most obviously with vinegar.

Acetic acid is a base in your world?

 

[rbowman]

On Sat, 27 May 2023 16:30:06 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

On 27 May 2023 22:12:38 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Sat, 27 May 2023 20:48:44 +0100, Max Demian wrote:

In the UK, you can buy macaroni cheese in cans or plastic trays to
heat.
But you have to add the topping (grated cheese plus packet
breadcrumbs) before you put it in a conventional oven (or under a
grill).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoyCKmyDRns

It says a lot about the decline of the mean IQ in the US that someone
thought a 2 minute youtube tutorial was necessary.

Do we need to give all the Nobel prizes back?

I\'m sure you\'re familiar with mean, median, standard deviations, and all
that. On one tail you have the Nobel prize winners, on the other you have
those who aren\'t prosecuted for crimes because the court believes they\'re
too stupid to understand the nature of the crimes.

https://www.worlddata.info/iq-by-country.php

I\'m sure mixing in the best and brightest from Guatemala will improve
things and kick the Flynn effect into overdrive.

I can think of a few Peace Prizes the Nobel committee should demand back
but they are just as political as any other organization. The hard
sciences are better when they are not interesting observations with no
practical use.

I\'m wondering if the famous normal distribution curve isn\'t on its way to
becoming a bimodal distribution.

 

[John Larkin]

On 27 May 2023 23:07:13 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Sat, 27 May 2023 10:09:26 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

Mo\'s favorite meal, which I dutifully prepare to save our marriage, is
fried shrimp on Hawaiian buns with tater tots. Gotta admit it\'s pretty
good.

You mean a variation on Portuguese sweet bread? Wasn\'t King\'s Hawaiian
recently sued for not having anything to do with Hawaii anymore?

We like the Kings buns. Who sued them? Is it illegal to sell Philly
Cheesesteaks or New York style pizza? Kentucky Fried Chicken? Boston
Market?

Looks like some judge tossed the silly Kings suit. It was probably a
greedy lawyer.

 

[rbowman]

On Sat, 27 May 2023 13:42:26 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

I was at Safeway last week and wanted to get some vanilla ice cream.
There wasn\'t any. There were about 20 weird flavors, mango and banana
and worse. I got dulce de leche, as close as they had.

In the early \'50s my mother was incensed that there was no coffee ice
cream to be had in Washington. The provincials had never heard of it.

I don\'t eat too much ice cream in the course of a year but a local shop
makes a cardamon version that can lure me in.

 

[John Larkin]

On 27 May 2023 22:39:13 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Sat, 27 May 2023 08:17:46 -0700, John Larkin wrote:


Annie\'s also makes a decent basalmic salad dressing, for when you don\'t
feel like making it yourself. I add maple syrup and garlic powder.

I\'ve got a bottle of balsamic vinegar. I use it straight up, no oil.

Annie\'s is, in my opinion, the best ketchup too.

It\'s not bad but it\'s pricey.

About 37 cents per ounce. Do what my friend does, steal packets of
ketchup from fast-food restaurants.

 

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 28 May 2023 09:58:13 +1000, \"Rod Speed\"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sun, 28 May 2023 01:10:26 +1000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sat, 27 May 2023 12:34:18 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 27/05/2023 12:18, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2023 11:52:06 +0100, Max Demian
max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

On 27/05/2023 02:52, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 10:33:22 +0100, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-04-22, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 21:10:07 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-04-22, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com
wrote:
Safeway is for bulk shopping, milk and paper towels. Their
rotesserie
chickens are OK and make great broth.

For you, perhaps. Millions of people use it for all their
groceries.

We like farmers\' markets for good stuff. And the Farm Box weekly
delivery.

Safeway tends to have good stuff for a while and then replace it
with
a house brand. Try to find World\'s Best Mac and Cheese, which
Safeway
used to have.

Unlikely. I don\'t like mac and cheese. Never have.

I never twigged what that was. Over here we call it \"macaroni and
cheese\" because that\'s what it is.

No we don\'t. We call it \"macaroni cheese\". entirely \"and\" free. Of
course it *isn\'t* just macaroni and cheese, there are other
ingredients.

Americans are very keen on it, and you can buy a kit of parts to make
it. I don\'t know what they use for cheese, though.

Frozen is easy, and some brands are excellent.

https://beechershandmadecheese.com/products/worlds-best-mac-and-cheese

We say mac and cheese

I\'ve never said that in my life.

Well, people talk funny in remote uncivilized islands.


Always \'spaghetti cheese\' or \'macaroni
cheese\'
A staple food post war with rationing, when dairy and eggs and pasta
made of low grade wheat were UK produced products that you could
actually buy. Cheaply.

We never had food rationing.

Are you in England?

Yes he is.

I wonder why England can\'t grow enough food to
feed itself. The population density isn\'t extreme.

They chose to import quite a bit of it from places
like Australia, New Zealand, other ex colonys
and some places where it was cheaper like
Arghentina and some places where it was better.

Along with fish.

What sort of fish do you get?

Fish from rivers like sewers in SE Asia as well as some ocean fish.

The cheap $5 a pound asian import fish is good for making broth. It\'s
hard to find fish scraps for broth.

Fresh west coast salmon and petrale sole and black cod cost a lot
more, as much as $30 a pound.

 

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 28 May 2023 10:02:47 +1000, \"Rod Speed\"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sun, 28 May 2023 01:17:46 +1000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sat, 27 May 2023 13:33:20 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-05-27, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 27/05/2023 02:52, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 10:33:22 +0100, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-04-22, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 21:10:07 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-04-22, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com
wrote:
Safeway is for bulk shopping, milk and paper towels. Their
rotesserie
chickens are OK and make great broth.

For you, perhaps. Millions of people use it for all their
groceries.

We like farmers\' markets for good stuff. And the Farm Box weekly
delivery.

Safeway tends to have good stuff for a while and then replace it
with
a house brand. Try to find World\'s Best Mac and Cheese, which
Safeway
used to have.

Unlikely. I don\'t like mac and cheese. Never have.

I never twigged what that was. Over here we call it \"macaroni and
cheese\" because that\'s what it is.

No we don\'t. We call it \"macaroni cheese\". entirely \"and\" free. Of
course it *isn\'t* just macaroni and cheese, there are other
ingredients.

Americans are very keen on it, and you can buy a kit of parts to make
it. I don\'t know what they use for cheese, though.

The kit comes with powdered \"cheese\". Actually a mixture of dried,
powdered cheese with other ultra-processed ingredients to make a
smooth sauce.

Annie\'s is better than starvation. Kraft is not.

Annie\'s also makes a decent basalmic salad dressing, for when you
don\'t feel like making it yourself. I add maple syrup

Fark, no wonder you are so fat.

BMI around 23. What\'s yours?

Mo doesn\'t like my kind of dressing; she makes her own and also adds
maple syrup. Her BMI is 18.

 

[rbowman]

On Sat, 27 May 2023 21:02:57 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

On 27 May 2023 22:39:13 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Sat, 27 May 2023 08:17:46 -0700, John Larkin wrote:


Annie\'s also makes a decent basalmic salad dressing, for when you
don\'t feel like making it yourself. I add maple syrup and garlic
powder.

I\'ve got a bottle of balsamic vinegar. I use it straight up, no oil.

Annie\'s is, in my opinion, the best ketchup too.

It\'s not bad but it\'s pricey.

About 37 cents per ounce. Do what my friend does, steal packets of
ketchup from fast-food restaurants.

That would mean I would have to go to fast food restaurants.

 

[Peeler]

On 27 May 2023 23:07:13 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

You mean a variation on Portuguese sweet bread? Wasn\'t King\'s Hawaiian
recently sued for not having anything to do with Hawaii anymore?

Good grief! Is there really no off topic idiotic shit that you will not
blather about, you pathological senile chatterbox?

--
Yet more of the abnormal senile gossiping by the resident senile gossip:
\"I never understood how they made a living but the space where the local
party store was is now up for lease. It probably was more than helium. I
often walk over the the adjacent market to get something for dinner and
people stuffing balloons in their cars was a common sight. No more. I\'ve
no idea if there is another store in town.\"
MID: <kafs2nF6vi1U15@mid.individual.net>

 

[Peeler]

On Sun, 28 May 2023 09:30:32 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin\'s latest trollshit unread>

--
Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 89-year-old senile Australian
cretin\'s pathological trolling:
https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/rod-speed-faq.2973853/

 

[Peeler]

On 28 May 2023 02:21:36 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


> Acetic acid is a base in your world?

He\'s a troll in the real and the virtual world, just like you are a bigmouth
in the real and virtual world. Or are you the \"taciturn\" person in real
life, you pathological senile chatterbox? LMAO

--
More absolutely idiotic blather by the resident senile gossip:
\"My mother sometimes made a cherry chiffon cake that started with a
packaged mix. It wasn\'t bad if you squished a slice down to resemble real
cake.\"
MID: <kaldt8F22l6U12@mid.individual.net>

 

[Peeler]

On Sun, 28 May 2023 10:28:38 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin\'s latest trollshit unread>

--
Bod addressing abnormal senile quarreller Rodent Speed:
\"Do you practice arguing with yourself in an empty room?\"
MID: <g4ihlaFh5p5U2@mid.individual.net>

 

[Peeler]

On Sun, 28 May 2023 10:10:12 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin\'s latest trollshit unread>

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Xeno to senile Rodent:
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MID: <id04c3F50peU1@mid.individual.net>

 

[Peeler]

On 28 May 2023 03:59:30 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


> In the early \'50s my mother was incensed

Was she, you abnormal gossiping senile washerwoman?

--
Yet more of the abnormal senile gossiping by the resident senile gossip:
\"I never understood how they made a living but the space where the local
party store was is now up for lease. It probably was more than helium. I
often walk over the the adjacent market to get something for dinner and
people stuffing balloons in their cars was a common sight. No more. I\'ve
no idea if there is another store in town.\"
MID: <kafs2nF6vi1U15@mid.individual.net>

 

[Peeler]

On Sun, 28 May 2023 09:58:13 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin\'s latest trollshit unread>

--
Sqwertz to Rodent Speed:
\"This is just a hunch, but I\'m betting you\'re kinda an argumentative
asshole.
MID: <ev1p6ml7ywd5$.dlg@sqwertz.com>