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On 28/05/2023 12:28, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 28/05/2023 12:00, charles wrote:
In article <u4va44$r9v5$1@dont-email.me>,
gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
On 28/05/2023 09:51, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

\"Mary had a tin cow,
She milked it with a spanner*.
The milk came out in shilling** cans
And small ones, for a tanner***\".

Mary had a little dress,
\'Twas split right up the sides
And every time she wore that dress
The men could see her thighs.

Mary had another dress
\'Twas split right up the front.
She didn\'t wear that one very often.

Mary had a little pig.
She couldn\'t stop it gruntin\',
So she took it down the garden shed
And kicked its little \"couldn\'t\" in.

Mary had a little lamb
And tied it to a pylon.
The electric spark flew up its arse
And turned its wool to nylon.

Mary had a little lamb
Unfortunately, it\'s dead.
Now it goes to school with her
Between two bits of bread.

Mary had a little lamb
She also had a duck
She put them on the mantelpiece
To see if they would...fall off....

Mary had a little lamb,
She kept it in a bucket
But every time she let it out
The bulldog tried to f f f f frighten it
 
On Sun, 28 May 2023 11:55:19 +0100, Max Demian
<max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

On 27/05/2023 21:42, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2023 20:42:57 +0100, Max Demian
max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 27/05/2023 16:50, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-05-27, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

We never had food rationing.

During WWII we did. Our rationing ended long before the UK\'s.

Do you mean when Americans only had 15 different kinds of ice cream
flavours?

Dark days.

That used to be a dig at the lack of onerous rationing in the US in WW2.

Back then, there were three ice cream flavors.


I was at Safeway last week and wanted to get some vanilla ice cream.
There wasn\'t any. There were about 20 weird flavors, mango and banana
and worse. I got dulce de leche, as close as they had.

Try to buy plain potato chips. They are hard to find.

Do you mean ready salted, or do you have the ones with the salt in a
little bag?

Plain means salted to me. Not bbq, not cheese flavor, not Flaming Hot,
just potatoes and salt.

Before they found a way to flavour \"crisps\" (as we call them) all our
crisps were plain, with salt in a little screw of blue paper so you
could add as much or little as you liked. Now you can get plain with the
salt in a little blue bag.

I\'ve never seen that here, separate salt. Would anyone like unsalted
chips? Seems unlikely.

One advantage of separate salt would be that the salt is hygroscopic
so makes the chips age faster once the bag is open. But stashing them
in a ziploc fixes that, or just eating all of them at once.

I wonder if the chips are packaged in nitrogen or something to keep
them fresher.
 
On Sun, 28 May 2023 09:43:29 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 27/05/2023 22:24, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-05-27, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 27/05/2023 16:50, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-05-27, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

We never had food rationing.

During WWII we did. Our rationing ended long before the UK\'s.

Do you mean when Americans only had 15 different kinds of ice cream
flavours?

Your point that our rationing wasn\'t as bad as your rationing is taken.
However, the U.S. had rationing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationing_in_the_United_States#World_War_II

Of course our food rationing wasn\'t as bad as yours, because we had
a lot more acreage under cultivation. And nobody was bombing it.

\"At the start of the Second World War in 1939, the United Kingdom was
importing 20 million long tons of food per year, including about 70% of
its cheese and sugar, almost 80% of fruit and about 70% of cereals and
fats. The UK also imported more than half of its meat and relied on
imported feed to support its domestic meat production.\"

You guys were in real trouble, no doubt about it.

While you guys sat back and made money out of us, till Japan kicked you
in the balls.

The US population was wary of millenia of non-stop european wars. As
continue today.

We could have made more money selling food and weapons to England and
Germany.
 
On 28/05/2023 18:00, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 28 May 2023 11:55:19 +0100, Max Demian
max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 27/05/2023 21:42, John Larkin wrote:

Try to buy plain potato chips. They are hard to find.

Do you mean ready salted, or do you have the ones with the salt in a
little bag?

Plain means salted to me. Not bbq, not cheese flavor, not Flaming Hot,
just potatoes and salt.

Before they found a way to flavour \"crisps\" (as we call them) all our
crisps were plain, with salt in a little screw of blue paper so you
could add as much or little as you liked. Now you can get plain with the
salt in a little blue bag.

I\'ve never seen that here, separate salt. Would anyone like unsalted
chips? Seems unlikely.

Probably not. The point is there wasn\'t a way to make them salty until
they found a way to coat the chips/crisps, in the late 60s in the UK I
think. Salt doesn\'t dissolve in cooking oil. Then they introduced the
flavours like cheese and onion.

You must have had the same problem in the US, unless people carried salt
cellars around with them.

I rather like the bite of the grains of salt hitting my tongue.

--
Max Demian
 
On 27/05/2023 23:12, rbowman wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2023 20:48:44 +0100, Max Demian wrote:

In the UK, you can buy macaroni cheese in cans or plastic trays to heat.
But you have to add the topping (grated cheese plus packet breadcrumbs)
before you put it in a conventional oven (or under a grill).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoyCKmyDRns

It says a lot about the decline of the mean IQ in the US that someone
thought a 2 minute youtube tutorial was necessary.

A simple written instruction is better than having to sit through a
verbose video.

Looks rather revolting, with the bright yellow. Is that artificial
colouring? I put half the cheese in the sauce, which also contains milk
and cornflour (corn starch) and a little salt; and I like to add a
little English mustard powder (1/2 tsp per serving). The other half of
the cheese is mixed with packet breadcrumbs as I described above.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoyCKmyDRns

Review of the original boxed version:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FwlJbya9KoE

Looks as revolting.

--
Max Demian
 
On 27/05/2023 23:03, rbowman wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2023 16:29:58 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

No, I mean having it in \'kit\' form.
I can buy ready to microwave macaroni cheese which isn\'t bad, but a kit?

Making macaroni cheese isn\'t all that difficult from scratch, though I
suppose having all the ingredients together in a box is convenient. I\'m
bothered by the idea of powdered cheese though, and the ones I\'ve seen
(on YouTube) are very yellow and artificial looking.

An alternative way is to buy a jar of pasta cheese bake sauce. It takes
longer (about 40 minutes) as you are baking the pasta in the sauce in
the oven, rather than separately so you can boil the macaroni at the
same time as making the sauce. You have to add some \"proper\" grated
cheese half way through as a topping - I like to add some packet
breadcrumbs for a crispy finish:

https://groceries.asda.com/product/casseroles-slow-cooker-sauces/asda-macaroni-cheese-pasta-bake/1000161632969
https://groceries.asda.com/product/lasagne-pasta-bake-sauces/homepride-pasta-bake-cheese-bacon/1000052456062

Psychology. Early in the game housewives thought of prepackaged cake mixes
as cheating. Marketers found that if they were instructed to add milk and
an egg, both of which were unnecessary, they felt they were baking from
scratch.

Apparently this isn\'t true, at least not as the story is usually told:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/something-eggstra/

--
Max Demian
 
Am 28.05.23 um 19:03 schrieb John Larkin:

The US population was wary of millenia of non-stop european wars. As
continue today.

Yes, they managed 12 years of peace or so since the declaration of
independence upto now, and before that, in statu nascendi, war against
the Mexicans or Indians or British.
And if no one else was available, the mutual other half of themselves.

Gerhard
 
On Sun, 28 May 2023 11:55:19 +0100, Max Demian wrote:

Do you mean ready salted, or do you have the ones with the salt in a
little bag?

Before they found a way to flavour \"crisps\" (as we call them) all our
crisps were plain, with salt in a little screw of blue paper so you
could add as much or little as you liked. Now you can get plain with the
salt in a little blue bag.

I\'ve never seen chips with separate salt. You can find unsalted but they
assume you don\'t want salt and don\'t provide any.
 
On Sun, 28 May 2023 10:00:13 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

On Sun, 28 May 2023 11:55:19 +0100, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com
wrote:

On 27/05/2023 21:42, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2023 20:42:57 +0100, Max Demian
max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 27/05/2023 16:50, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-05-27, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com
wrote:

We never had food rationing.

During WWII we did. Our rationing ended long before the UK\'s.

Do you mean when Americans only had 15 different kinds of ice cream
flavours?

Dark days.

That used to be a dig at the lack of onerous rationing in the US in WW2.

Back then, there were three ice cream flavors.

If you were really unfortunate they were married together in
\'Neapolitan\'. I didn\'t like strawberry and considered vanilla a waste of
time so that was not a favorite.

I\'ve never seen that here, separate salt. Would anyone like unsalted
chips? Seems unlikely.

https://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/product/kettle-brand-unsalted-potato-
chips-b00ws2u4i6


There are many unlikely people.
 
On 28 May 2023 19:42:46 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


If you were really unfortunate they were married together in
\'Neapolitan\'. I didn\'t like strawberry and considered vanilla a waste of
time so that was not a favorite.

HIGHLY interesting, again! You just have such a fascinating personality!
And, luckily, you keeps telling us everything about it! Innit, gossip girl?
<BG>

--
Trump-, Hitler- and Putin-sympathizer lowbrowwoman about Nazi-Germany\'s good
intentions:
\"At the onset all Germany wanted was to build a road to East Prussia which
had been severed from Germany proper by the Danzig Corridor.\"
MID: <kabnetFft5qU17@mid.individual.net>
 
On 28 May 2023 19:32:14 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


I\'ve never seen chips with separate salt. You can find unsalted but they
assume you don\'t want salt and don\'t provide any.

THRILLING conversation! Now it\'s about chips with and without salt! About
time you useless senile idiots got euthanized!

--
More of the resident senile gossip\'s absolutely idiotic endless blather
about herself:
\"My family and I traveled cross country in \'52, going out on the northern
route and returning mostly on Rt 66. We also traveled quite a bit as the
interstates were being built. It might have been slower but it was a lot
more interesting. Even now I prefer what William Least Heat-Moon called
the blue highways but it\'s difficult. Around here there are remnants of
the Mullan Road as frontage roads but I-90 was laid over most of it so
there is no continuous route. So far 93 hasn\'t been destroyed.\"
MID: <kae9ivF7suU1@mid.individual.net>
 
On Sun, 28 May 2023 09:45:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 27/05/2023 22:33, rbowman wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2023 08:10:26 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

We never had food rationing.

Certainly we did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationing_in_the_United_States

My parents kept chickens and also had a vegetable garden. Eggs or
chickens could be bartered for sugar and other commodities.

One of the family stories told how my father had acquired a 5 gallon
tin of motor oil through barter. All was good until my mother went to
the garage one day and saw a rat sitting on the can. She hated mice and
rats although they went hand in hand with raising chickens. Being a
self- sufficient woman she got her 16 gauge and blew the rat to hell,
along with most of the oil can.

Footnote: although it has almost vanished today a 16 gauge was
considered a ladies shotgun; my father and I used 12s.

16 gauge? Is that like a 20 bore? Oh, its a 16 bore. So halfway between
a 12 and a 20...or a serious gun and a \'rook rifle\'

The 20 bore, as you say, has become very popular in the US.

https://www.gundogmag.com/editorial/the-return-of-the-16gauge-shotgun/
385243

That article claims it was the skeet shooting rules that favored the 20.
Skeet wasn\'t popular where I grew up and was seen as a bit snobby like
golf and the 20 bore wasn\'t considered to be useful for hunting. Some kids
would start with a .410 but my father taught me with a 12.

The .410 has regained some popularity since there are revolvers chambered
for it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_&_Wesson_Governor
 
On 5/28/2023 3:42 PM, rbowman wrote:

Back then, there were three ice cream flavors.

If you were really unfortunate they were married together in
\'Neapolitan\'. I didn\'t like strawberry and considered vanilla a waste of
time so that was not a favorite.

Haagen Dazs Vanilla Bean is about the only vanilla worth buying. The
original Breyer\'s from 50 years ago was too, but it has been cheapened
to crap.
 
On Sun, 28 May 2023 09:43:29 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

While you guys sat back and made money out of us, till Japan kicked you
in the balls.

Roosevelt\'s idea of \'neutrality\' was as lopsided as Wilson\'s. It would
have been better to sit back and let WWI take its course.

Japan was a good example of a possible outcome when sanctions and
embargoes are used against a rising nation that feels it has a better
founded interest in East Asia than a country an ocean away.

It all started with Perry\'s Black Ships. The ruling oligarchs in the US
are slow learners. The latest furor over China\'s banning of Micron chips
is an amazing example of hypocrisy. Japan realized they could not win a
sustained war when they attacked. I don\'t believe China has that problem.
 
On 2023-05-28, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 27/05/2023 23:12, rbowman wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2023 20:48:44 +0100, Max Demian wrote:

In the UK, you can buy macaroni cheese in cans or plastic trays to heat.
But you have to add the topping (grated cheese plus packet breadcrumbs)
before you put it in a conventional oven (or under a grill).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoyCKmyDRns

It says a lot about the decline of the mean IQ in the US that someone
thought a 2 minute youtube tutorial was necessary.

A simple written instruction is better than having to sit through a
verbose video.

Looks rather revolting, with the bright yellow. Is that artificial
colouring?

Of course. There are places in the U.S. where people expect
\"cheddar\" cheese to be white; other places expect it to be orange.
I live in the latter. It\'s generally colored with annatto.

I put half the cheese in the sauce, which also contains milk
and cornflour (corn starch) and a little salt; and I like to add a
little English mustard powder (1/2 tsp per serving). The other half of
the cheese is mixed with packet breadcrumbs as I described above.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoyCKmyDRns

Review of the original boxed version:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FwlJbya9KoE

Looks as revolting.

--
Cindy Hamilton
 
On 28 May 2023 21:03:48 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


The 20 bore, as you say, has become very popular in the US.

https://www.gundogmag.com/editorial/the-return-of-the-16gauge-shotgun/
385243

That article claims it was the skeet shooting rules that favored the 20.
Skeet wasn\'t popular where I grew up and was seen as a bit snobby like
golf and the 20 bore wasn\'t considered to be useful for hunting. Some kids
would start with a .410 but my father taught me with a 12.

The .410 has regained some popularity since there are revolvers chambered
for it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_&_Wesson_Governor

Just HOW much SHIT is there in your sick senile head, senile shithead?

--
More of the resident senile bigmouth\'s idiotic \"cool\" blather:
\"For reasons I can\'t recall I painted a spare bedroom in purple. It may
have had something to do with copious quantities of cheap Scotch.\"
MID: <k89lchF8b4pU1@mid.individual.net>
 
On 2023-05-28, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Sun, 28 May 2023 10:00:13 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

On Sun, 28 May 2023 11:55:19 +0100, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com
wrote:

On 27/05/2023 21:42, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2023 20:42:57 +0100, Max Demian
max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 27/05/2023 16:50, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-05-27, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com
wrote:

We never had food rationing.

During WWII we did. Our rationing ended long before the UK\'s.

Do you mean when Americans only had 15 different kinds of ice cream
flavours?

Dark days.

That used to be a dig at the lack of onerous rationing in the US in WW2.

Back then, there were three ice cream flavors.

If you were really unfortunate they were married together in
\'Neapolitan\'. I didn\'t like strawberry and considered vanilla a waste of
time so that was not a favorite.

I like strawberry ice cream, but it has to be _good_ strawberry ice
cream. With chunks of strawberry. The pink stuff in Neapolitan
was always artificially flavored.

--
Cindy Hamilton
 
On Sun, 28 May 2023 09:41:30 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

It gradually gor better but some imported goods remained expensive for a
long time. Hitlers U-boats shagged the merchant fleets something
rotten.

Payback for the blockade of Germany that was enforced for 8 months after
the Armistice was a bitch.
 
On Mon, 29 May 2023 03:03:38 +1000, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 28 May 2023 09:43:29 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 27/05/2023 22:24, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-05-27, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 27/05/2023 16:50, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-05-27, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com
wrote:

We never had food rationing.

During WWII we did. Our rationing ended long before the UK\'s.

Do you mean when Americans only had 15 different kinds of ice cream
flavours?

Your point that our rationing wasn\'t as bad as your rationing is taken.
However, the U.S. had rationing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationing_in_the_United_States#World_War_II

Of course our food rationing wasn\'t as bad as yours, because we had
a lot more acreage under cultivation. And nobody was bombing it.

\"At the start of the Second World War in 1939, the United Kingdom was
importing 20 million long tons of food per year, including about 70% of
its cheese and sugar, almost 80% of fruit and about 70% of cereals and
fats. The UK also imported more than half of its meat and relied on
imported feed to support its domestic meat production.\"

You guys were in real trouble, no doubt about it.

While you guys sat back and made money out of us, till Japan kicked you
in the balls.

The US population was wary of millenia of non-stop european wars.

Yes.

As
continue today.

Not in western europe they don\'t.

We could have made more money selling food and weapons to England and
Germany.
 
On Mon, 29 May 2023 04:49:42 +1000, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com>
wrote:

On 27/05/2023 23:12, rbowman wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2023 20:48:44 +0100, Max Demian wrote:

In the UK, you can buy macaroni cheese in cans or plastic trays to
heat.
But you have to add the topping (grated cheese plus packet breadcrumbs)
before you put it in a conventional oven (or under a grill).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoyCKmyDRns
It says a lot about the decline of the mean IQ in the US that someone
thought a 2 minute youtube tutorial was necessary.

A simple written instruction is better than having to sit through a
verbose video.

There are plenty of situations where a well done
video clip leaves a text description for dead.

Looks rather revolting, with the bright yellow. Is that artificial
colouring? I put half the cheese in the sauce, which also contains milk
and cornflour (corn starch) and a little salt; and I like to add a
little English mustard powder (1/2 tsp per serving). The other half of
the cheese is mixed with packet breadcrumbs as I described above.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoyCKmyDRns
Review of the original boxed version:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FwlJbya9KoE

Looks as revolting.
 

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